Author, journalist and entrepreneur Matt Forney thinks MGTOW men are losers. In one of his recent articles he claimed that MGTOW is no way for men to go because MGTOWs are nothing but a “creeping cult of male loserdom”.
He basically points to the following reasons why the red pill community is a bunch of losers –
- He said, “The original MGTOWs rode motorcycles, banged girls, read books and shared their views through blogs and forums.” He further added that MGTOW was actually an anti-movement against the “impotence of Men’s Rights Activists and the marriage strike.”
I am just wondering why marriage meant only having sex to him. The modern MGTOWs do talk about marriage strike because such bonds create unnecessary burden on men. Given the provider and protector role that the men play in any family, marriage brings a lot of additional responsibility and financial and legal burden on men. However, having sex is not banned for Men Going Their Own Way. Some in the RedPill community feel even marriage should not be banned because anything enforced on a man will definitely not make him go his own way.
Another problem that Matt had with marriage strike is that it was not mentioned in original MGTOW manifesto. Even our constitutions also evolve based on need of the society. So marriage strike not being mentioned in original manifesto of the red pill community of MGTOWs but brought in later by them can surely not make them losers.
- Men going their own way (MGTOW) are male rejects of American society –
So he thinks if a man decides to be on his own and avoid women, he is a loser or a reject of the society. Hope he thinks the same way for the women who think alike because “Women need men, like Fish need bicycle” is a popular feminist proverb. I am sure Matt must think alike for them as well. That makes it clear to us that not only he doesn’t respect personal choices and freedom but he is the biggest patriarchal bigot can be seen in recent times. He says, if men give up on women they are losers who want to feel happy in their singlehood after rejection from women. This is as if acceptance by women is the only goal men should have in their life. That is such a pathetic narrow view of life he has.
He also mentions that MGTOW or “the red pill” is a lonely-heart’s club. Well, all of us need love and affection of others. But it is not only the girl friend’s love or wife’s love. We can still live in a brotherhood where we respect one another and share our joys and sorrows to live a happy life. That is why in Maslow’s Hierarchy sexual needs occupy the lowest position compared to love needs which is superseded by self-actualization needs. So it is clear that love does not mean sexual needs (as he meant) and sex is anyways a very basic need but not all fulfilling one.
He also says, “lack of sex can drive a man crazy”. Well, I have not heard any case like that. In fact, in India all single men live more happily than ever married men. The ever increasing suicide rate among married Indian men (and probably married men all over the world) is an indicator of that. And because in India sex without marriage is still not prevalent, we can safely assume that lack of sex definitely DO NOT drive men crazy. There are other better things for men to do. So it seems that his assumption is actually wrongheaded rather than the the red pill philosophy he mentioned in his article.
- MGTOWs are ANGRY because they are not able to get a date
Well, I am so surprised to see this line from him. This shows his sheer ignorance about MGTOWs. Calling a whore a whore is first of all one’s prerogative. Because, in so many years of pussy worship that alpha men like him did, pushed men to a corner where even the most horrible bitches demand more respect and rights than most humble and genuine gentlemen. These men can not be termed as losers if they call a spade a spade, because respect and value should be given to the deserving persons and not to just anyone. Problem is, with men like Matt Forney surviving is pushing men into a darker phase where they are taught to worship women no matter what they really are and that is why most criminal and bitchy women get legal protection and finances from the most humble and noble hearted men. Women dare to abuse men openly and call that as their right because of such spineless men like Matt who promote pussy-worship.
- MGTOWs are like radical feminists
This is purely his imagination. I have never seen any MGTOW behaving the same way as radical feminists. The radical feminists will be seen more often on the streets, the parliaments or on media bitching in the most horrible language about men (yes, all men are pigs etc). They do not exclude men like Matt, no matter what they propose or how much these alpha male banishes MGTOWs or MRAs. Any sensible and self respecting person will protest that behavior unless one is absolutely spineless.
When is the last time you have seen such MGTOW posters?
This kind of generalization that Matt Forney has mentioned in his article never existed in MGTOW dictionary but that does exist in feminists’ books. This is the reason we have one sided gender biased recognition of crimes and punishments. That is why for same crime men get more punishment compared to women. The laws of most countries made in such a way that gives unnecessary advantages to women even though the laws may be gender neutral.
Problem is, when men highlight any crime committed by women or raise such issues, everyone thinks it is an attack on the female gender and all women are supposed to feel threatened by that. Whereas when the genders are reversed and men become at the receiving end, men are supposed to hate their gender and protect women’s interest. This is the reason why men are increasingly pushed to mere slavery as women manipulate men the way they want. Now people like Matt Forney may like that situation but not everyone is obliged to have the same feeling.
- Men and women still fundamentally want to be together
Yes, but that does not mean one gender (read men) need to go by all the conditions put forward by the other gender (read women). I am not sure why Matt is feeling threatened by this behavior of the red pill community. This raises my confusion whether the article was really written by him or some frustrated feminists used him as their mouthpiece to vent their anger on men going their own way (MGTOW)?
- MGTOW will become a pussy worshipper, if a cute agreeable girl dropped in his lap
The same can be said for pussy worshippers too. They will become MGTOW anytime any such cute girl robs them of their fortune, tortures them like hell and robs their life, dignity and family – they are likely to become MGTOW. This includes people like Matt Forney as well. Problem is what people like Matt suggest is to go by the whims of women to have a relation and MGTOWs just protest that. They have relations in amicable terms and conditions. Otherwise a relation becomes meaningless.
- MGTOWs are hysterical, intolerant of criticism and driven entirely by emotion
I couldn’t laugh more when I read this. Looked straight from an ignorant ass**le’s mouth. Any literate person would have checked different debates they participated with feminists and how feminist rationalists are cornered with logic and data. In fact, it is the feminists and alpha male who show their emotions and they are intolerant of criticism.
MGTOW blogs and YT channels talk about how men can regenerate their self esteem and think like a human being rather than being a feminist scapegoat. However, feminists always blame men for everything bad ever happened to women (if women have anemia that is also fault of men around them).
- MGTOWs will turn men inward, refusing to accomplish anything of value
This is another foolish and uneducated statement. It is as if saying that men cannot achieve anything without women, when world’s most successful men are not married or not having relations. This is another unique example of gynocentrism where Matt thinks that if one is not around women or banging a few girls around one isn’t a complete man or achieved anything in life. That is so f**king stupid. This shows the level of maturity he has. I am actually shocked at the pathetic mental retardation shown in this conclusion.
The article, even though came from a man, raises serious question about the need for him to write such a thing against MGTOWs. Was he threatened by the MGTOW standard or did it threaten feminists who hired him to write this piece of nonsense. This is sure indication that MGTOW movement and some men abandoning women is forcing many women to relinquish their feminist stand and with ever growing popularity of Women Against Feminism and Meninism movements, feminists are hard pressed to find a politically correct gynocentric agenda under the fine wrap of gender neutrality for their own survival.